The red shade you used is a madder red, which is a very common color today - but did it also exist in earlier times?
In the Middle Ages and early modern times, red tones for painting a ship were usually ocher tones.
On expensive ships (e.g. Vasa) they also used minium, which covered the color range from orange to vermilion. Vermilion was the pigment, they found at the bulwarks of the Vasa.
Madder red, on the other hand, was a vegetable dye used to dye textiles.
There are also (modern) authors who mention oxblood as a cheap way to paint ships. However, I don't know anything conclusive about this.
Cheers, Alexander
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Greetings a respected community! recently I've made some small changes in my project , in the continuation of the story, so to speak - * slightly increased forecastle height *raised the beackhead deck - in principle, by this , I've just returned to the original composition of the kit ... * and finaly I've refused to reproduce the step in the forward part of the main gun deck ... something, well, it "did not go to me" despite my love of of Elizabeth Jonas galleon model, either on the famous Baker's galleon drawing , and then judging by the drawings and paintings of that period, the step in the nose is not an indispensable attribute at all, as an example - two pictures, with a step (Baker's Galleon) and without ... But in the stern - as far as I know, this deck break was present at many pictures of the galleons and this break of the aft deck , even could be traced up to the middle of the 17th century .... therefore I left my initial idea to show it ... *In the on -board decor I added Tudor's colors - white and green ... So far... Wish all of you all the best!
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The red shade you used is a madder red, which is a very common color today - but did it also exist in earlier times?
In the Middle Ages and early modern times, red tones for painting a ship were usually ocher tones.
On expensive ships (e.g. Vasa) they also used minium, which covered the color range from orange to vermilion. Vermilion was the pigment, they found at the bulwarks of the Vasa.
Madder red, on the other hand, was a vegetable dye used to dye textiles.
There are also (modern) authors who mention oxblood as a cheap way to paint ships. However, I don't know anything conclusive about this.
Cheers, Alexander
Good day, Dear Alexander, Thank You for comment, frankly speaking, regarding this "red" I tried to be close ,as I can , to the "red" which I see on that famous Vroom's paint ... fragment Hendrik_Cornelisz._Vroom_-_The_Arrival_of_Elector_Frederick_V_of_the_Palatinate_and_Elizabeth_Stuart.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte) but very probably I failed this and made it wrong shade of red, and I still very doubt how to show this correct?... same with green ??? should it be more dark or bright ...still in doubts may be You have some kind of samples /or palitra of the colors which should be used on galleon model with the name which color is which ? like this vermilion or minium? I would be very thankful if You could place them here or place the link where I could check and to use them as reference... for me it was still very difficult even with a choise of royal blue color ? what You could see on the drawings here it is my interpretation of Royal Blue :))) All The Best! Kirill
I also saw that in the picture of Vroom the colors are dark and bluish. Here Vroom has taken the shady lighting situation in the picture into account.
A artistic painter had a wide range of colors because he didn't have to worry about costs and weather conditions for his oil paintings. In contrast not every color was suitable for painting larger areas on a ship. This is in modern times possible with synthetic colors. The prices of the “old” pigments may be estimated at Kremer Pigmente. But the prices cannot necessarily be transferred to the old days, as some colors can now be reproduced using original chemical compositions and expensive transport routes are no longer necessary.
Rembrandt's colors were the following: Rembrandt.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)
The color research on Vasa's figures has identified a number of pigments, all of which can be seen in a display case in the museum in Stockholm: Pigmente.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)
Ab Hoving / Cor Emke have included the following color chart for the colors of the 17th century in their plan set / book “The Ships of Abel Tasman”: Hovin Emke Farben.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)
Good day, Dear Alexander! Great Thanks for your reply and supplied value information, everything I ve been try to find today in the internet , but didn't succesed too much, now You gave it all in one place! Just Great! Thanks a Lot! Wish You all the Best! Kirill
Good day bela, Tudor (Elizabeth 1 in this case) symbols they are :
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