Bilder der HMS Victory 1737 "Balchen-Victory" im NMM

Anbei Bilder der Modelle SLR0449 und SLR0450 aus dem NMM

SLR0450
http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/66410.html
"Scale: 1:34.3. A contemporary full hull model of the 'Victory' (1737), a 100-gun three-decker first-rate ship of the line. Built in 'bread and butter fashion' and finished in the Georgian style, the model is partially decked, fully equipped and rigged. The large scale of this model would support the theory that this was once part of the equipment of the Royal Naval Academy at Portsmouth Dockyard, and used for the educating of young gentlemen to the sea-service. In fact in 1742, six of these young gentlemen wrote to the Navy Board complaining ‘the model of the Victory is so small, her rigging so slight, that we cannot learn anything from it, neither do we know anything of rigging or the stowage of anchors or cables, we are quite ignorant of everything that belongeth to sails’. They petitioned the use of an old yacht, converted to two mast to improve them in the art of the rigging of ships and their request was granted. The 'Victory’ itself was built in the Royal Dockyard, Portsmouth and measured 174 feet along the gun deck by 50 feet in the beam and had a tonnage of 1921 (builders old measurement). In 1744, a formidable fleet, commanded by Admiral Sir John Balchen in the 'Victory’, was sent to relieve Gibraltar and drove the French fleet into Cadiz. He was returning to England when his fleet was scattered by a violent gale on 4 October. So much damage was done that the 'Victory’ was lost with all hands, nearly 1200 men, on the Casquets, off Alderney, in the Channel Islands.
Date made circa 1744?"

SLR0450
http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/66411.html
"Scale: 1:48. A block design model of the ‘Victory’ (1737), a 100-gun, three-decker ship of the line. The name ‘Victory’ is marked on stern. If the beam is taken as moulded as in the ‘Princessa’ model (SLR0441), the dimensions fit the Establishments of 1719 and 1733 for 100-gun ships. The distribution of ports and deadeyes visible on the starboard side beneath the overpainting does not agree with that shown either by SLR0512 or by the contemporary draughts of the ‘Victory’. This model may represent an early stage in the design. The only 100-gun first rate built to the 1733 Establishment was the ill-fated ‘Victory’, which was being built around the same time as this model. It was launched in 1738. It was only marginally longer (by nine inches), and wider (by six inches) than the 1719 Establishment ships like the ‘Royal William’. It was, however, armed with heavier guns, carrying twenty-eight 32- or 42-pound guns on the gun deck, twenty-eight 24-pounders on the middle deck, twenty-eight 12-pounders on the upper deck, twelve 6-pounders on the quarterdeck and four 6-pounders on the forecastle. It was the last first rate to be armed only with brass guns. The ‘Victory’ joined the Channel Fleet in 1741 after being repaired following a collision with the ‘Lion’ in 1740. In April and May 1744, it served on the Lisbon convoy before becoming Admiral Balchen’s flagship later that year. The ship is best known as ‘Balchen’s Victory’, after the Admiral, lost when it sank without trace in October 1744.
Date made about 1737"

Daniel

Enjoy

Irgendwie hatte ich gleich geahnt., dass eine Frage zu diesem Teil kommt ...

DAniel :-)

Moin,

was mir auffällt ist das fehlen der Belegnägel, bis auch einige wenige auf der reeling des Achternschiffes. Das sollte doch bestätigen, wenn das Modell noch das originale Rigg hat, dass Belegnägel erst ab mitte bis Ende des 18. Jahrhunderts in England aufkamen.

Beim Penterbalken sieht man das auch immer wieder bei den van de Velde Zeichnungen.

Ich bin über diesen auch immer wieder bei meinen Recherchen zur Royal Sovereign gestoßen. Karl Heinz Marquardt schrieb über den Penterbalken,ich zitiere:

Der Penterbalken ist jedoch ein loses Bestandteil der Ausrüstung, er wird auf der Back in einem mit Ringbolzen an Deck befestigten soliden, eisernen und offenen Vierkant gehalten und liegt gesichert zwischen Hölzern auf dem Schandeckel

RS.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)

Hier sieht man ihn sehr gut.


Grüßle

EDIT Daniel: Antworten zu den Belegnägeln nach hierher verschoben
Belegnägel

Warum baut denn von Euch Vic Spezialisten nicht mal einer diese?? Die sieht wenigstens nach was aus

War sie eigentlich die einzige mit den 4 Galerien? Oder gab es die nochmals wo?

Gruß, Daniel

Es gab noch welche mit Fenstern in der vierten Ebene, aber ich glaube nicht als komplette Galerie.

Daniel

Warship; First rate; 100 guns
http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/66404.html SLR0443

Scale: 1:48. A block design model of the 100-gun, three-decker ship of the line (1735). The model is decked. The only 100-gun first-rate built to the 1733 Establishment was the ill-fated ‘Victory’, which was being built around the same time as this model. It was launched in 1738. It was only marginally longer (by nine inches), and wider (by six inches) than the 1719 Establishment ships like the ‘Royal William’. It was, however, armed with heavier guns, carrying twenty-eight 32- or 42-pound guns on the gun deck, 28 24-pounders on the middle deck, twenty-eight 12-pounders on the upper deck, twelve 6-pounders on the quarterdeck and four 6-pounders on the forecastle. It was the last first rate to be armed only with brass guns. The ‘Victory’ joined the Channel fleet in 1741 after being repaired following a collision with the ‘Lion’ in 1740. In April and May 1744, it served on the Lisbon convoy before becoming Admiral Balchen’s flagship later that year. The ship is best known as ‘Balchen’s Victory’, after the Admiral, lost when it sank without trace in October 1744.
Date made Circa 1735